Chapter 5 and 6. AQ

Robby Treadwell

1/30/13

Chapter 5 and 6

Period 4

Summary:  The men talk about what they would do if that war ended right at the moment. Kropp Tjaden, and Himmelstess all get in trouble for messing around with each other. Kat and Paul catch a ride to the house where the geese ones to get food. The men are staying in dugouts while taking bombardments of bombs. The men fight back when the bombing and shells firing come to a close end. 132 of the 150 men are still alive. 

Quotation: "So Tjaden has rigged up the lid of a boot-polish tin with a piece of wire over the lighted stump of a cnadle. The lice are simply thrown into this little pan. Crack! and they're done for." (75)

Quotation Significance: In this quote we are introduced into how brutal they're living conditions were. He filled up a whole can of boot polish with lice! That to me to read is disgusting and is hard to wrap my mind around.

Reflection: These two chapters were very long and tedious for me to read. I was getting side tracked while trying to read, and found my self rereading some of the pages. After reading these chapters I have come to realize that Pau, Kropp, and Himmelstess are some what more immature than others. I also found out that they will do almost anything to get food, like they did. They put their whole lives in danger going to try and kill the geese. They lost eighteen men already but I am wondering how many the opposing side lost. When I also read about how Tjaden has lice and the living conditions are brutal I came to realize that I am very grateful I didn't have to fight in that war!

Discussion Question: Why don't the men fire shells, and bombs back instead of playing defense most of the time? 

Chapter 3 and 4. AQ

Robby Treadwell

1/29/13

Chapter 3 and 4

Period 4

Summary: A new group of recruits shows up to cover for all the ones that were lost. Paul, Kropp, and Tjaden get revenge on Himmolstess for making all the sleep together with bed-wetters. The men are sent out to lay barbed wire down at the front hearing shots fired. The crew is bombarded while waiting for the trucks to pick them up. On the way home in the trucks, bombs explode  surrounding the trucks. One of the new recruits dies at the end. 

Quotation: " An explosion sounds somewhere. We wince, our eyes become tense, our hands are ready to vault over the side of the lorry into the ditch by the road." (74)

Quotation Significance: In this quote it tells a lot about how they are never not in harms way. They are always ready for the next bombardment or attack. That would be way too scary for me.

Reflection: The first chapter was confusing for me to read. I was confused on what was going on between Himmolstess and what he was doing to the other guys. Then when I went to read it on Sparknotes, I found that he forced the two bed-wetters to sleep together leaving their beds drenched in urine. I knew it was going to be bad when I found out that the men had to go lay out barb wire because you could just infer that they were going to get attacked. I was surprised most of them actually made it out with seeing only one severely wounded. I thought it was cool to read that most of the people when they duck to reload or something they are actually dodging shells flying over their heads unconsciously knowing that they almost just took one to the dome. 

Discussion Question: Do they make it back home safe?

Chapter 1 and 2. AQOTWF.

Robby Treadwell

1/28/13

Period 4 

Chapter 1 and 2

Summary: In the beginning we meet Paul Baumer the narrator who is in combat in world war I. He is with soldiers Leer, Muller, and Kropp. Katczinsky is the leader of Paul's tribe. We meet Kantorek who told them to join the service in the first place. Paul talks about how the war is everything to him because he has nothing to back home to. At the end Paul loses his friend Kemmerick that had no leg.

Quotation: "It will try simply to tell of a generation of men who, even though they may have escaped shells, were destroyed by the war."

Quotation Significance: Even though this quote is not in the the first two chapters it is on the first page, I chose it because it talks about how brutal the war is which can tell you the story is going to be pretty brutal. Even though they made it out alive their minds are still in shell shock from the war.

Reflection: I think the quote above can tell us a lot about what this book is going to be about and how it is going to be. These first two chapters aren't much about the story line and plot but it gives you a ton of information about the characters and setting of the story. What I took from these two chapters was a platoon led by a leader that is the front line and is taking a break right, trying to heal the wounded, now talking about where they came from and how they got there. It was sad to read about Kemmerick dying but then again I feel like there is going to be a lot of that in this novel. I liked how he said he wanted to give his boots to Muller. I think that later on those boots are definitely going to be an important symbol throughout this story. 

Discussion Question: Why does the author use such odd names for the characters of this novel?

Chapter 12. LOTF

Robby Treadwell

1/22/13

Period 4

Chapter 12

Summary: Ralph hides in the jungle from jack's tribe, but comes to find from Sam and Eric that Ralph is coming in full gear to kill him the next day. Jack sets the forest ablaze trying to smoke Ralph out. Ralph runs to the beach to see a naval officer there standing, because he his ship saw smoke on the island. 

Quotation: "Dumbly, Ralph shook his head. He turned a half pace on the sand. A semicircle of little boys, their bodies streaked with colored clay, sharp sticks in their hands, were standing on the beach making no noise at all." (200)

Quotation Significance: This chapter is significant to me because at the beginning of this book we see a group of boys were together to survive but now they turn into this. Now they are fighting against each other for life or death. I knew this was going to happen between a bunch of immature young kids. 

Reflection: If I have never read this book before I would be very surprised by this ending as I was when I first read this book. I could infer that the boys could thank Jack for getting saved though because he did set the forest on fire which definitely put up a big amount of smoke in the air. I remember reading at the beginning of this book about one of the boys dads being a navy officer and I thought it was Ralph's which is why I ask is it his dad? The book ends with a lot of questions in your head and I kind of like that sort of ending. It is interesting to read about how nature and being alone without parents has the boys change throughout the book. 

Discussion Question: Is the naval officer Ralph's dad?

Chapter 9. LOTF

Robby Treadwell

1/16/13

Period 4

DePalatis

Summary: Simon wakes up and sees the parachutist but comes to find that it isn't the beast and there is no beast on the island. When simon exits the forest the boys attack him thinking he is the beast and end up killing him. The wind sends the parachutist flying onto the beach scaring everyone there.

Quotation: "Kill the beast! Cut his throat! Spill his blood!" (152)

Quotation Significance: This is what the little kids and boys were chanting when they saw the "beast" (Simon) come out of the forest. This is sad because they actually do really violent things to him.

Reflection: This is a very sad and depressing chapter to read. Poor Simon wakes up all beat up and tries to explain to the boys that there isn't a beast on the island but is mistaken for the beast and killed. I don't understand how the boys at some point while they were attacking him didn't see his face or come to realize that he is Simon and not a beast. It was sad to also read that after they killed him, they just went on with their business not showing to much emotion towards Simon's death. Also Jack is still so caught up in the fact that they killed the pig but now they don't have any shelter for the vicious storm over night. This means some of the little or big kids might get seriously injured over night due to the storm. 

Discussion Question: Who is going to die next on the island and why?

Chapter 8. LOTF

Robby Treadwell

1/15/13

DePalatis

Period 4

Chapter 8

Summary: Jack decides to leave the tribe and create his own tribe. Piggy and Ralph decide to build a new signal fire on the beach instead of the mountain. Jack's tribe kill a sow. Simon leaves before Jack's group raids the beach and goes to the cleared spot in the jungle where he was before. There he sees the killed pigs head on a stake, and it later talks to Simon mesmerizing him which makes him faint. 

Quotation: "Im warning you. Im going to get angry. D'you see? You're not wanted. Understand? We are going to have fun on this island. Understand? We are going to have fun on this island!..." (144)

Quotation Significance: In this quote the dead pig head is talking to Simon. I think that Simon is just seeing things but then again I don't know how. Simon will probably go and tell the others about this and scare them about the beast. 

Reflection: I think this is the most important chapter of the book so far. The tribe that was working together to help survive has split into two. In this chapter they don't struggle that much because it hasn't been long that they have been away from each other, but I think that they will find it is even harder to survive on their own and that they are going to join together to make one again. I was very confused at the end of this chapter when we see Simon talking to the dead pig's head. I think that Jack's tribe put it in that place to mess with Simon and scare him. I don't actually think that it is talking to him, I think Simon is seeing things before he faints. It is said to see everyone leave Ralph's tribe, because he was trying his hardest to help everyone more than himself and the kids are too immature to see that. 

Discussion Question: Will the two tribes fight against eachother?

Chapter 7. LOTF

Robby Treadwell

1/14/13

DePalatis

Period 4

Chapter 7

Summary: The boys see boar poop on the ground and decide to chase it failing to capture it. They reenact the scene using a boy named Robert playing the boar and almost killed him. The boys continue on to the mountain and climb up to the top finding a scary ape looking creature.

Quotation: "Before them, something like a great ape was sitting asleep with its head between its knees." (123)

Quotation Significance: In this quote the boys are talking about the "beast" they see at the top of the mountain. I think this so called "beast" isn't actually an animal or human I think it is just the way a rock is looking or they are just seeing things.

Reflection: I read this book in seventh grade and since it was so long ago I can't remember what they are actually looking at or what the "beast" is. This really makes me curious because William Golding does a very good job at the end of this chapter leaving it so that you really want to keep reading. If I didn't have other homework tonight I would definitely keep reading. I was kind of surprised too while reading this chapter because they almost seriously injured or even killed Robert. Poor kid probably hasn't done anything wrong and they boys are shoving spears at him. This chapter was good for Ralph because it boosts his confidence and courage more after hitting the boar with his spear. 

Discussion Question: What is it that they see at the top of the mountain? Is it real or are they just seeing things?

Chapter 4. LOTF

Robby Treadwell

1/9/12

Period 4

DePalatis

Summary: We find out that in the morning on the island it is cool and breezy but by the afternoon it is very hot. The young kids eat too much fruit and get diarrhea, while they are still scared about the "beastie" that lives in the jungle. They see a ship out in the sea, but the signal fire is out. The hunters and jack come back with a dead pig, but failure to keep the signal fire going causes fights. 

Quotation: "This from Piggy, and the wails of agreement from some of the hunters, drove Jack to violence. The bolting look came into his blue eyes. He took a step and able at last to hit someone, stuck his fist into Piggy's stomach. Piggy say down with a grunt. ..."

Quotation Significance: In this quote we learn how violent Jack is and selfish. His failure to keep the signal fire going might have been what kept them from being saved. I felt bad for Piggy after reading this quote.

Reflection: The more and more I read this book I come to realize that Jack gets more violent and evil as the book goes along. He seems to be more selfish then trying to help out the rest of the people like Ralph. I feel bad for Piggy because he is just trying to get his point across and instead of that Jack punches him in the stomach. There also must be a large amount of fruit on the island because Ralph doesn't seem to worried about the young kids eating all the fruit. It was sad to read that the boys saw the ship but the signal fire was out. They could have actually been saved if Jack kept the hunters in line and made them do their job. I can tell that Ralph is definitely feeling frustrated from all this.

Discussion Question: Are Piggy and Ralph going to let Jack keep up with his bad behavior?

Chapter 2/3. LOTF

Robby Treadwell

1/8/13

Period 4

DePalatis

Summary:  The conch shell now as well represents who has the right to speak. During meetings whoever is holding it can speak. A small young boy claims that there is a monster on the island. The boys decide to make a signal fire to get the attention. Jack and the hunters fail to capture another pig. Jack and Ralph start to bicker due to the fact that many of the boys are not willing to help. 

Quotation: "I got the conch! Just you listen! The first thing we ought to have made was shelters down there by the beach." (45)

Quotation Significance: In this quote we learn that Piggy is one of the more responsible ones there. We also learn how much power the conch shell now has. Piggy seems like the one to be leading the pack better than Ralph it seems. 

Reflection: We learn more and more about the conch shell in this chapter and how much power it has. As we talked about in class the little young kids start to get more scared as we can see when on of them claimed to see a monster on the island one night. This as well scared many other of the kids and put bad demons in their head that were not not scared. I think that Ralph is starting get very frustrated with the whole group because they won't contribute to anything and he is the only one trying. If Ralph were to try and help out the hunters then there would be no one to build the huts. Piggy needs to step up in one of these situations and help. We also learn that Jack and Ralph are starting to bicker and fight because Ralph feels he is the only one trying. This is what we could expect from a bunch of young kids trapped on an island alone.

Discussion Question: What would happen if the conch shell was lost or shattered?

Chapter One. LOTF

Robby Treadwell

1/7/13

Period 4

DePalatis

Summary: We meet Ralph and Piggy two english boys that are on a island because they're plane got shot down. Ralph finds a conch shell which he blows and then other people summoned to the beach. We also meet Jack who is almost like the leader. They elect a leader which is Ralph but Ralph turns it over to Jack. They go on a hike to find that they are stranded on an island with no vision of civilization. 

Quotation: "Ralph looked through him. Here at last was the imagined but never fully realized place leaping into real life. Ralph's lips parted in a delighted smile and Piggy, taking this smile to himself as a mark of recognition laughed with pleasure." (15)

Quotation Significance: This quote shows what a typical young child wants: to live with just their friends and no parents. They will not think that way for long. I think they will quickly come to realize that they need parents to help and save them. 

Reflection: As I have already read this book before in middle school I am very glad to read it again because it was one of the books that I have read that are actually interesting to me. It will be interesting as well to see how two different teachers view and teach it. I thought it was pretty random to find a conch shell and for Piggy to decide to blow in it and then all of a sudden a bunch of kids show up. This conch shell I think will be a symbol for something deeper later in the story I think. Jack is also going to have to man up in the future and kill animals for food. If they want to survive on this island they can't be hesitant to do things. I was also surprised there wasn't any adults on the plane that survived.

Discussion Question:How are Jack, Ralph, Piggy and the gang going to get along and deal with their small fights?